31 Jan
2019
31 Jan
'19
10:04 p.m.
Hi Marco,
You wrote about your view on what happens in the Ukraine
and questioned if it's a good idea to meet in Kyiv.
I think it was and remains a good idea to meet in Kyiv and i can assure
assure you that everyone involved is aware of the difficult political
situation there. By meeting there we are not aiming to help
governments but actual people who are in need of secured communications.
That we do not place typical western use cases at the
center of developments but try to actually work from
eastern european, cuban or other "untypical" environments:
Do you really think this is a bad idea?
Isn't there already enough software developed
in the "Silicon Valley" style with "always-connected"
paradigms etc and with things optimized and developed
for buying, shopping and tracking?
holger
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 15:24 +0100, Marco Vittorini Orgeas wrote:
On 01/27/2019 10:53 PM, holger krekel wrote:
today we published a blog post on the current
releases:
https://delta.chat/en/2019-01-27-releases
it's been a lot of work from many people to make
it to this major milestone. Thanks all, also those
not specifically mentioned in the blog post ...
as DeltaChat continues to gain momentum it's not
so easy to keep track of everyone involved ;)
there are a few immediate things where we'd be grateful
for help in the upcoming month:
- advancing and refining app translations
https://www.transifex.com/delta-chat/delta-chat-app/dashboard/
- helping new users in thehttps://support.delta.chat forum
- testing and stabilizing the Android release in
particular in order to push it to the play store.
F-droid is quite slow in pushing releases and
it's about time to distribute it more widely, isn't it?
- building a Delta/Desktop release for Windows,
the last missing platform.
- trying to advance the iOS testflight app
to also bring it to the ios app store.
Delta/iOS will remain behind the other two
efforts but there is not that much missing
to make it real-life usable. While we have 2-3 people
who care from time to time for Delta/iOS
we don't have or know anyone available
who could more majorly help.
Let's see where we can get in 2019 with what
is hopefully a good start ;)
holger
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Hi,
unfortunately there are still no mentions/news about the so-called
"recommending dedicated accounts" proposal
<https://lists.codespeak.net/hyperkitty/list/delta@codespeak.net/thread/6YFHHVB5ERA6O63UONWY6NNHN6RNDXYC/>
(of the main devs??) of the last October in order to use delta chat.
I'm glad Delta Chat is actively developed, but as of today I am not sure
anymore what the scope of the project is: I fear that the proposal has been
silently taken for accepted and thus the project turned essentially in
developing a fancy mail user agent with a sleek UI (autocrypt can be
installed on some MUAs as well the last time I checked).
That change has deep effect on the nature of the project and I've tried
<https://lists.codespeak.net/hyperkitty/list/delta@codespeak.net/thread/TAQGFUOGXWPNR7UV6ETEUYKDX6UKXZJO/>
in the past (without luck) to start a more structured discussion about it.
Some "words" on the matter would be gladly accepted after 4 months.
Ksenia is also driving many key happenings around
DeltaChat, recently the
DeltaChat needfinding report
<https://delta.chat/en/2018-12-19-needfinding> and the Delta-XI Kyiv
gathering <https://delta.chat/en/2018-11-17-deltaxi>. And there are rumors
about new interesting things happening late spring 2019 in Kyiv ;)
Is there any particular reason to regularly have community live meetings in
Kiev?
I've quite a few concerns about gathering in that country: as you probably
know, there's an active civil war in the Donbass region and after the
western (NATO but mainly USA) sponsored coup d'etat of 2014 against a
democratically elected govern, there has been installed one reminiscent of a
fascist Junta, with large parts composed of proudly and active
field-fighting ultra nationalist Nazist squads (cfr. e.g.: Azov
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion#Human_rights_violations_and_war_crimes>).
In addition, as in the good tradition of nazi-fascist states, there are
proscription lists redacted by the current govern and updated daily, of
so-called "enemies of Ukraine" i.e. journalists, writers, intellectuals, but
also common people who are denied the entry in the country and risk to be
jailed because considered "active spies" and enemy of the "nation".
Are there any other options apart from this Nazi/Fascist run capital?
- helping new users in
thehttps://support.delta.chat forum
I'd like to but unfortunately all of them
are redirected to the new
fashionable discourse web forum (since the website has buried the mailing
list subscription link) whose UI I found confusing and distracting.
I know that fashion is nowadays increasing important (sigh!) in engaging
users (thanks faceboogle!) even in CS circles but it's a bit sad to face
this very phenomenon occurring in a project which is supposed to fight back
by fostering the use of the decentralized systems like the email
infrastructure for communication.
Best.
--
Marco
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