I'm Marko from Germany. Just trying the DeltaChat Client with SailfishX and elementary OS 5.0
On elementary I get a error message after the npm start. Anyone the same problem here?
Gesendet mit SailfishX
I don't understand why flatpak!?
This software is awful, it doesn't work or I didn't understand anything! Virtualbox, dosbox, or other interfaces are far ahead.
I'm happy to use archlinux, somebody put in on aur, it means no flatpak!
Daniel O. <millerebonds(a)millerebonds.lautre.net>
a small note in the German computer magazine c't made me aware of this "project": https://www.coi-dev.org/
I don't know to which extent this is relevant in the context of DeltaChat, but, in the case you haven't heard of it yet, it might be interesting.
Considering the fact that Xenia is a Ukrainian, have you considered writing a post about DC on Habr? It is one of the most popular websites among both Ukrainian and Russian developers. I believe, it might increase the number of people involved in the project significantly.
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I installed via aur (archlinux) delta chat desktop v0.98.2.r10.g8a456f7-1, and have on a phone with replicant (from f-droïd) the 0.200 version.
On the desktop version I don't find the ability to delete definitively some contacts. I delete the chat, but when I click new chat it continues to propose the same contact, and there is not the ability to delete the contact like in the mobile version.
Otherwise it's really a nice work you done!!
Daniel O. <millerebonds(a)millerebonds.lautre.net>
there is a new android release out on gplay and f-droid:
one thing that we missed to announce is the default for encryption keys
has changed and is now RSA2048 instead of the previous RSA3072.
This improves the setup time (often taking 60 seconds, now 10) and also
reduces message size. We are aiming to support ECC/ED25519 keys which
will much reduce key sizes.
If you are wondering if RSA2048 i safe enough you may consider:
- gpg (the command line tool) defaults to RSA2048
- Autocrypt setup messages (transfering your secret key)
are not safer than RSA2048 encryption keys.
- general advise still is that RSA2048 is enough
first of all, let me warmly recommend to read what Xenia and Vadym wrote
in the UX testing report, also published on the blog now:
Its results and content already was discussed in longer sessions November
2018 at our in-person gathering in Kyiv. Several devs met and chatted
with the participants after the more formal UX test sessions.
Delta Chat is a deeply UX driven project.
However, lots of deeper UX discussions happen in real life conversations
and it's often hard to co-ordinate offline with online forum or
github-issue discussions. This may be frustrating or irritating if you (can) only
participate online but it's never quite possible to transfer all what's happening
offline to the online world. It's not even possible that everyone from
the developers knows about all UX considerations everywhere.
Note that our wider "physical" gatherings are quite open, the next one
is upcoming for end april (23-30th) in Kyiv again. We are working with
several well-informed and networked locals and are of course aware of
the currently happening presidential elections there ... with the final
vote to happen just two days before our gatherings starts. We have a
wide range of participants from different decentralization and e-mail
projects, with several world-class dev and UX folks, mixed with the very
interesting and complex evolving techno-social environment of Kyiv ...
for some superficial info there is a new website now:
for more and organisational info, ask on the #deltachat IRC channel or
mail xenia or me. IRC and E-Mail ... such retro much fun :) There are
both travel and accomodation possibilities if you are short on money.
FWIW, to me Kyiv feels a bit like the 90ties in Berlin btw. and it's
interesting to note that Ukraine has a big internet provider
scene -- just like in the 90ties in the West. So in retrospect,
what could have gone differently, historically, if different
developments evolved? How is it possible to preserve and multiply
diversity and retain the ability to operate infrastructures regionally
instead of depending on strong online pipes to California?
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 23:23 +0100, Xenia wrote:
> Dear all,
> We are finally publishing our Delta Chat User-testing report based on
> our usability tests with a dozen Ukrainian journalists and NGO
> activists. Since then, many things have already been improved and
> implemented while other are on the way! Some of our development
> priorities - such as location streaming for example - are based on tests
> and discussions with our active users and contributors. This report is
> part of this iteration process that we try to engage with.
> I hope you will find some of the aspects of this report interesting for
> your own projects, as we tried to write it in a reflexive way. We
> questioned how habits related to popular secure messaging apps influence
> usability expectations and create a sort of "inertia". In this regards,
> in this report - and beyond - we look for ways to design better UX/UI
> for decentralized messaging ecosystems and namely how to provide users
> with better explanations, visualizations, phrasing of key concepts. We
> hope this can be relevant for other projects seeking to convey some of
> the aspects of decentralization to their users, while having to deal
> with language / wording and UX "heritage" of centralized apps.
> We're now one month to go from our second Kyiv gathering - currently
> under the code-name "Delta Xyiv" (April 23 to May 1st) - where we will
> conduct a second round of user-testing - and a real-time
> Game/Test/Scavenger Hunt in the city, as well as many other happenings.
> In preparation to that, we welcome any feedback on this report, as well
> as on the recent developments of Delta for Android, iOS and Desktop.
> Thank you in advance for all your contributions and comments!
> All the best
> Xenia (and Vadym)
> pub rsa2048/B0C29AFD8B8DB519 2015-11-01 [expires: 2025-01-08]
> uid Xenia <ksenia(a)radicalcinema.org>
> uid Ksenia <ksenia(a)citizenlab.ca>
> uid Xenia <ksenia(a)transcyberian.org>
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