15 Apr
2019
15 Apr
'19
9:43 p.m.
Hello,
I don't understand why flatpak!?
This software is awful, it doesn't work or I didn't understand anything!
Virtualbox, dosbox, or other interfaces are far ahead.
I'm happy to use archlinux, somebody put in on aur, it means no flatpak!
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Daniel O. <millerebonds(a)millerebonds.lautre.net>
15 Apr
15 Apr
10:30 p.m.
New subject: [delta-chat] Re: deltachat and flatpak
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On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 23:43 +0200, Daniel O. wrote:
I'm happy to use archlinux, somebody put in on
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Well volunteered
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16 Apr
16 Apr
7:40 a.m.
New subject: [delta-chat] Re: deltachat and flatpak
Hi Daniel,
On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 23:43 +0200, Daniel O. wrote:
Hello,
I don't understand why flatpak!?
This software is awful, it doesn't work or I didn't understand
anything! Virtualbox, dosbox, or other interfaces are far ahead.
While using flatpak does require some initial setup to be done by users,
it was the platform which gave us the most realistic path to creating
binary packages which we would have a high confidence of working on many
linux distributions. We also expect the initial hurdle of flatpak to
diminish over time.
If you have issues with getting flatpak setup qit would be great if you
could work with the flatpak project to work out issues and improve
flatpak usage for others. If the problem you're experiencing is with
the Delta Chat flatpak build itself it would be great if you could work
with us to fix the issues.
Lastly, there are various people working on more native support for some
Linux distributions. But this is not a trivial amount of work and there
are many distributions, so this largely depends on people volunteering
to support the distribution they care about.
I'm happy to use archlinux, somebody put in on
aur, it means no flatpak!
If you would like to work on making Delta Chat directly available on
AUR, that would be great. The deltchat-core dependency is already on
AUR if I'm not mistaken.
Kind Regards,
Floris
11:59 a.m.
New subject: [delta-chat] Re: deltachat and flatpak
Deltachat-desktop is in the aur since a long time, so shouldn't be a
problem to get it running on arch
(i'm using it myself). It builds from latest master so you always get a
development preview. I guess you
can hack in a specific commit/tag into the PKGBUILD to get a specific
version built.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/deltachat-desktop-git
~J
On 16.04.19 09:40, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 23:43 +0200, Daniel O. wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I don't understand why flatpak!?
>>
>> This software is awful, it doesn't work or I didn't understand
>> anything! Virtualbox, dosbox, or other interfaces are far ahead.
> While using flatpak does require some initial setup to be done by users,
> it was the platform which gave us the most realistic path to creating
> binary packages which we would have a high confidence of working on many
> linux distributions. We also expect the initial hurdle of flatpak to
> diminish over time.
>
> If you have issues with getting flatpak setup qit would be great if you
> could work with the flatpak project to work out issues and improve
> flatpak usage for others. If the problem you're experiencing is with
> the Delta Chat flatpak build itself it would be great if you could work
> with us to fix the issues.
>
> Lastly, there are various people working on more native support for some
> Linux distributions. But this is not a trivial amount of work and there
> are many distributions, so this largely depends on people volunteering
> to support the distribution they care about.
>
>> I'm happy to use archlinux, somebody put in on aur, it means no flatpak!
> If you would like to work on making Delta Chat directly available on
> AUR, that would be great. The deltchat-core dependency is already on
> AUR if I'm not mistaken.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> Floris
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7:42 p.m.
New subject: [delta-chat] Re: deltachat and flatpak
Hello,
The only "software" I made are very little and are small bash scripts, I have
not enough programming knowledge to have a good opinion on technical issues.
For me, but maybe it sounds strange to you and I guess it's false, the .tar.gz and
programs which are compiled are common to linux distributions
What I made was setting things to be more lightweight and make run again old computers
that people throw in the bin, I like a lot archlinux and antix for this, it's simple
and lightweight.
I tried to make override command lines and other commands on flatpak, it didn't work
to allow delta chat to access user files.
I searched to find a solution, and thought it's not well conceived or the
documentation is not clear enough.
What I can help is help to write something, a tutorial, in french, maybe some
documentation.
For me delta chat is really a nice idea and tool, compatible with everybody, but still I
wonder why sandboxing something trustfull.
I run replicant on a phone, and saw that desktop and mobile delta chat are not the same,
mobile seem more complete, I can understand why.
Thank you,
Le 16 avril 2019 13:59:10 GMT+02:00, Jikstra <jikstra(a)disroot.org> a écrit :
Deltachat-desktop is in the aur since a long time, so
shouldn't be a
problem to get it running on arch
(i'm using it myself). It builds from latest master so you always get a
development preview. I guess you
can hack in a specific commit/tag into the PKGBUILD to get a specific
version built.
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/deltachat-desktop-git
~J
On 16.04.19 09:40, Floris Bruynooghe wrote:
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est libre.
Hi Daniel,
On Mon 15 Apr 2019 at 23:43 +0200, Daniel O. wrote:
users,
Hello,
I don't understand why flatpak!?
This software is awful, it doesn't work or I didn't understand
anything! Virtualbox, dosbox, or other interfaces are far ahead.
While using
flatpak does require some initial setup to be done by it was the platform which gave us the most
realistic path to creating
binary packages which we would have a high confidence of working on
many
linux distributions. We also expect the initial
hurdle of flatpak to
diminish over time.
If you have issues with getting flatpak setup qit would be great if
you
could work with the flatpak project to work out
issues and improve
flatpak usage for others. If the problem you're experiencing is with
the Delta Chat flatpak build itself it would be great if you could
work
with us to fix the issues.
Lastly, there are various people working on more native support for
some
Linux distributions. But this is not a trivial
amount of work and
there
are many distributions, so this largely depends
on people
volunteering
to support the distribution they care about.
> I'm happy to use archlinux, somebody put in on aur, it means no
flatpak!
If you would like to work on making Delta Chat
directly available on
AUR, that would be great. The deltchat-core dependency is already on
AUR if I'm not mistaken.
Kind Regards,
Floris
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26 Apr
26 Apr
12:01 p.m.
New subject: [delta-chat] Re: deltachat and flatpak
Hi Daniel,
On Tue 16 Apr 2019 at 21:42 +0200, Daniel wrote:
I tried to make override command lines and other
commands on flatpak,
it didn't work to allow delta chat to access user files.
If I understand you correctly you can run the flatpak fine, but when
trying to add attachments you can not access them due to the sandboxing?
It sounds like this is already recorded in
https://github.com/flathub/chat.delta.desktop/issues/14 did you try the
workaround there? Also commenting on your experience there will be
helpful.
I searched to find a solution, and thought it's
not well conceived or
the documentation is not clear enough.
What I can help is help to write something, a tutorial, in french,
maybe some documentation.
Sure, contributing better documentation is certainly appreciated as
well!
Kind Regards,
Floris
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