hi all, So it's becoming clear that a lot of people here (and also outside this list) highly value that DeltaChat can be run in "single-account for chat and classic e-mail" mode. Be assured that it's not going away over night and not without further consultations. This anyway was all more about recommendations, what to tell would-be-users. However, we'd like to suspend the discussion until Xenia and vadym can contribute. They have done 16 needfinding interviews in Ukraine, and are also preparing two user-testing sessions later this month in Ukraine. Both are, however, busy finishing up other projects and thus can not immediately participate right now. We are going to soon have team-discussions (also with people in Ukraine) about development directions for the next half-year. So thanks again everybody for the good feedback! It's great to hear that you are heavily weighing in when you feel the project might move into the wrong direction. Please in turn recognize that there are "only" 10-20 people who are working to bring Android, Desktop and iOS versions to public releases, along with caring for user-support, translations to many languages, building/packaging on five platforms, researching and introducing new ways to shield against MITM attacks, organizing travels and gatherings, writing funding proposals and organizing them, instigating mailing-list discussions, UX and user-testing sessions ... ... many of them are not directly paid (and others not "adequately" by far if you take the market rate for the kind of great expertise coming together to evolve the current Delta efforts) and several of them are doing this on a few hours-per-week basis. There are limits to what can be achieved even if something is a good idea ... and luckily there is a great overflow of good ideas with Delta currently ;) So what we ask for is that when implementation or other concerns are raised please try to take them as seriously as we try to take everyone's feedback. Part of that is understanding where the other side is coming from. And part of that is balancing usability, implementation, crypto and several other concerns and efforts -- none of them always trumps the other. With this, a good weekend everyone :) holger and bjoern