20 Feb
2019
20 Feb
'19
8:04 a.m.
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 01:35 +0100, Marco Vittorini Orgeas wrote:
On 02/12/2019 08:29 AM, Der Mor wrote:
While i agree with your sentiments about mobile usage there also
is Delta Chat Desktop which in the new release added multi-line editing.
While i don't see DC evolving to a typical subject/documented based MUA,
there is a case and already actual usage from folks for making writing
subject-based e-mails possible. It's a pragmatic step like so many other
steps that happened and happen with Delta Chat's development. And there
are ideas how to do this without getting in the way of the chat experience ;)
Am Tue, 12 Feb 2019 00:25:06 +0100
schrieb Marco Vittorini Orgeas<marco(a)mavior.eu>eu>:
I am one of the people who advocated for shared account in
the offline
discussions.
I use DeltaChat Dev with a dedicated account and DeltaChat FDroid with
a shared account. Works fine for me, so far. Neither account is my
"major" Mailing account with 1000+ Mails / Day and I don't think that
Delta is (or could be) a good MUA for accounts like this.
I agree, as I said many
times before, Delta should not try to be a sort of
"fancy-UI MUA" (and this is what I expected and understood by reading the
site contents back in 2017).
Thus what I don't understand is why then Delta tries so hard to be one!
For instance, it allows to reply to regular emails with a "dumb" editing
environment: how
someone would want to quote/reply to emails while digitizing over a touch
screen of no more than some cm is really behind me! It is already pretty
difficult/impossible to email with dedicated mobile MUAs! There is
no "sole purpose" to the account sharing than trying to
balance and adapt with what we perceive as user expectations.
We've had many discussions with people on and off line -- if there
would be one easy obvious solution we'd maybe go for it ;)
And I, for one, would
like to hear and discuss with these
people...where are they? In a shared scenario this behavior is also quite
degrading for the "chat
experience" because not-savvy/newbies don't understand why they receive
emails inside the delta chat, once they have replied/messaged to one of
their known contacts.
yip, it's a known annoyance. There are dev discussions and probably soon
even coding changes towards more ignoring of non-DC messages also in
the mailbox view. For starters, the plan is to introduce an option
to ignore non-DC mails in the mailbox/contact-request view.
Then, the question is what the default will be. I am with the camp
that rather wants to avoid the above annoyances for starting users ..
and thus "ignore non-dc messages" by default. Non-DC Replies to
DC chat messages would still be shown, of course -- it's a core
feature that DC interoperates nicely with other MUAs/e-mail UIs when
people simply hit reply.
cheers,
holger